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2017 Honda CBR650F

Good article on the updates to the 2017 CBR650F: 2017 Honda CBR650F Review of Specs + NEW Changes! | CBR Sport Bike News / EICMA 2016 | Honda-Pro Kevin











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Power increased by 4 HP, bringing it to 90 HP. Also more adjustability to the front forks. Since it was first introduced in 2014, I've really liked the CBR650F. If I were buying a new sport bike this year, I think it would be this one.
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We're already an active community on the 650F forums. Hugely underrated bike for what it offers. Moves effortlessly between a commuter, a sport tourer and a modest track day bike in one.
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Yes, the 650F seems to be a very underrated bike in terms of the overall sport bike market. And yet this is a motorcycle which was chosen as the platform for the 2015 & 2016 European Junior Cup series...

CBR650F with full race bodywork in PATA livery...




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Here's the EJC bike in front. The camera bike chasing it is said to be a GSXR750.
They dropped some 36 kg off the stock bike for the race trim for the 650F.


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considered as replacement for stolen cbr250r, but put off
by reports then of first production in thailand then
moving to india.. not enthusiastic about a new
manufacturing site, such as india..

so interested in this model as raised here,
but still not sure of who/where it will be made
links stating both, japan and india...
perhaps MM could shed light here..

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The Honda CB650F And CBR650F Get Updates For 2017 | Cycle World
Honda CBR 650F to be Made-in-India, launch by August ?15 | Shifting-Gears
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It's my understanding that the larger displacement Honda's currently being produced in India, such as the CBR650F*, are just for the Indian market, and not for export outside the country. I recently read an article by an Indian motoblogger talking about the CRF1000L Africa Twin, which is also being built in India for their 'home' market. The article also implied that the completed parts & components for the CRF1000L were going to be shipped from Japan to India for assembly there.



* Honda India is said to produce only 2 CBR650F's per day, which is hardly a number that would provide enough bikes for export to other markets.
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The 650F was never produced in India. Its all made in Thailand alongside the CB500 and 300 range. They import in India and slap hefty taxes on the bike which is why in India the 650F retails for $12700 USD.
As of right now there is no Honda India product being exported to any country other than the 100-125-160cc motorcycles that are exported to South America and small countries in Europe and Asia.

Their production capacity is 90% focussed on local market where their demands are more than supply. They've hit the production ceiling and are looking to add 2 more manufacturing plants in India to their existing 3 plants all solely focussed around the 100-250cc models.


Honda India assembles(not manufactures) 2 CBR650Fs per day. The parts come to India from Thailand as CKD(Completely knocked down kits) and then assembled so that they gain a small % of import tax cuts for hiring local workers on the assembly line by the govt. The assembled bikes are only for local consumption.

All the 250-650cc bikes sold across the globe are made in Thailand minus the RR.

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I had to really laugh to my self when a fellow I know.....who had a CBR 300 R traded his bike because of "crap bikes made in Thailand" when he heard of the crank recall. He growled and complained to my local dealer about Quality of the 300 Series motorcycles and bought another Honda........................ a CBR 650 R. You should have seen his face when I showed him where his new bike was made.

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The 650F was never produced in India...

... Honda India assembles(not manufactures) 2 CBR650Fs per day. The parts come to India from Thailand as CKD(Completely knocked down kits) and then assembled so that they gain a small % of import tax cuts for hiring local workers on the assembly line by the govt...
"Assembly" may not be considered "manufacturing" in the strict sense of the word. But if you go back and look, I didn't use the term "manufacturing" in my previous post. What I did say is that Honda India is "producing" CBR650F's for their home market, which indeed they are... They are using parts and components manufactured elsewhere to assemble a product, which by definition is still considered to be "production".

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... All the bikes sold across the globe are made in Thailand.
Actually, Honda Motor Co. still builds and produces (or "manufacture's") most of the companies larger (ie. more expensive) motorcycles in Japan... that hasn't changed.
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