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Teaching someone to ride

This week, my wife gets her scooter. I am tasked with teaching her how to ride it. In a couple of days, we are heading to an empty parking lot and starting the process. A MSF course is not in the cards.

I’m looking for ideas on what to teach her...... Your thoughts?

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best place to start is a large grass field--hurts less--both bike and human
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How sound is your relationship? - This could break ya's!

I'm guessing because it's a scooter it will have a centrifugal clutch which is good and bad. Makes the whole process a lot easier now not having to teach throttle/ clutch coordination but means that further down the track when she wants to progress to a big bike she will have to learn it then.
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best place to start is a large grass field--hurts less--both bike and human
While a grass field would be fine for learning to ride a dirt bike with off road tires, for a scooter with small diameter pavement tires it's less than ideal. IMO, everything about typical scooter design says 'For Pavement Use Only'.

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Having taught to many to count how to ride over a ten year span while working for a Honda dealer I disagree with you-the hardest part of learning how to ride is taking off and stopping no matter what kind of bike your learning on-take off to fast in grass wheel spins -stop to fast wheel locks easy for the student to see what their doing wrong- much safer-most new riders fall at least once during the first hour-where would you rather fall?
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for zero single track experience [incl pushies] start at the start,, familiarising with the thing itself, its weight [when held or sat upon etc], thus becoming part of/learning its combined c of g, including just holding it y off stand to sitting astride both feet grounded, moving it forward and back engine off - which brings in front brake [etc], is a good way to 'break the ice' and develop confidence and basic control.. incremental steps well practiced remove certain fears novices have of the unknown, including their ability to control thus enjoy cycling from the start..


as teacher/partner you can pick up on various areas needing extra input, demonstration or extra practice.. first lessons can then be repeated engine on,
such as moving forward with some engine assist - thus clutch and throttle control.. be teacher first.. ie, patient, persistant, encouraging etc..


[ive also taught novice road riders, starting on any safe level surface, one object being to not, drop the bike, ever..
fast forward to actual riding skills development, i favour straight line runs first, on say a very quiet long straight road, no exits etc, for throttle control and engine braking, with braking for stopping.. once good braking is established, light gravel can serve for feeling controlled brake locking..
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I think she would be fine to start on a large parking lot like the Church parking lot on a day where there is nobody there.

There is not much to learn with a scooter, just twist and go and brake. She can learn the basics in the Church parking lot and then you both can do some drives on local city streets that are not too busy.

I would not worry too much, it is pretty straightforward.
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I would not worry too much, it is pretty straightforward.
That's true. And if things get too complicated... well, we may just see if "Bachelor" still remembers how to fix his own breakfast, and do his own laundry.

To ride or not to ride? What a stupid question.
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riding is simple,, but as in any activity based on balance, movements within c of g, together with hand/eye co-ordination - and immediate risks of falling and injury - even experienced riders can go down - fact is first introductions and basic experiences do set the tone for everything thereafter.. often for years, even following some riders on every ride,, however they learn to cope etc...
the 'cleaner' first experiences, the better long term outcomes..
some bounce back easily from a fall, while some trigger rational decisionmaking responses based on pain and fears etc..


teacher gets first view of student potentials and potential risks..
most dont have well developed torso musclature for eg, thus one good start is 'just' sitting on or straddling the bike, feeling its weight moving side to side - a new experience, incl for brain and specific muscle groups needed for controlling c og g at every stop, on sloped roads with or without camber.. just switching on these brain/muscle areas prepares them for the inevitable changes in vertical alignment they will encounter sooner or later.. just one easy eg of a 'not riding' situation which is non threatening yet confidence building and directly relevant to actual control of a bikes weight at standstill and very slow speeds - where novices often lose control...


lots of verbiage here for a simple basic of novice rider prep..
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Scooters are uses in city traffic. Just some ideas coming ino my mind.
- slow moving (straight, lane changing, filtering)
- the most feared cafe house turn (180 degree at low speed) - should be easy with scooter
- breaking: hard breaking from city speed to full stop, braking and change lanes.
- start/stop/turn on hill roads
- manovering with engine off: in/out of parking lot, turn on narrow roads

Might be useful to let her wear full protective gear even for low speed manovering, hurts less....
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