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Honda CBR300R

Price: $4,399
Layout: 286cc 4 stroke, single-cylinder
Bore x Stroke: 76mm x 63mm
Compression: 10.7:1
Horsepower: 30.50 hp @ 8,500 rpm
Torque: 20 lb ft @ 7,500 rpm
Seat Height: 30.7 inches
Wet Weight: 364 lb
Fuel Capacity: 3.4 gallons



Yamaha R3

Price: $4,990
Layout: 321cc 4 stroke, parallel twin
Bore x Stroke: 68mm x 44mm
Compression: 11.2:1
Horsepower: 42 hp @ 10,750 rpm
Torque: 21.18 lb ft @ 9,000
Seat Height: 30.7 inches
Wet Weight: 368 lb
Fuel Capacity: 3.7 gallons



Kawasaki Ninja 300

Price: $5,299
Layout: 296cc 4 stroke, parallel twin
Bore x Stroke: 62 mm x 49 mm
Compression: 10.6:1
Horsepower: 38.89 hp @ 11,000 rpm
Torque: 19.91 lb ft @ 10,000 rpm
Seat Height: 30.9 inches
Wet Weight: 383 lb
Fuel Capacity: 4.5 gallons
 

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not sure how Yamaha is as a bike, but not going to lie its pretty sexy and the specs are nice, along with that price. I like the short exhaust also....
 

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I really like all 3 bikes.........However.....this is a CBR 300 forum and I'm sticking with riding my Honda,any day of the week.
Yup, that's the problem when posting stuff like this, but of course nothing wrong with posting it.

There will be some sort of bias here towards the CBR.
 

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Of course there will be bias towards the Honda, it wasn't about that. The point was these bikes will be cross shopped often, this is a place to simply have all the information quickly available should one want it. I for one am now actively considering the R3...(but we don't need to talk about that here)
 

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I have to agree with Cropper. Before, it was just CBR vs Ninja and I had my mind set in stone on Honda. I even bought the red helmet! :D Now, with the introduction of R3 being sold at almost matching price, I suddenly have a choice I haven't asked for. As a result, I will definitely go to a motorcycle show in January to sit on both bikes and will keep a close eye on what others have to say (issues, pros, ergonomics and so on).
 

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I'd be interested in differences in reliability; however being that these bikes are all new only time will tell. I favored the Honda, in part, for the company's reliability and the idea that singles are easy to work on.
 

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Yes, the Yamaha is impressive and with 42 hp it is obviously using technology the other two are not using. Even with the 321 cc the 42 hp is wow!
 

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I think the longer stroke on the Honda makes a better bike. The power variance between the bikes really isn't that great when you consider the relationship between torque and horsepower and that all the bikes peak torque is about the same but the Honda's peak torque is at a much lower RPM. The real power difference isn't as great as it appears. I see the Honda as a better engine design because both the Kawasaki and Yamaha have larger displacements, are twins and have to wind out the engine another 1,000-1,500 to achieve similar torque to the Honda. I use the Honda as a daily rider and not a track bike so my perspective might weight some attributes I look for higher than other might but it is still more fun to have a running single than a broken twin. ;)
 

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Yes, the Yamaha is impressive and with 42 hp it is obviously using technology the other two are not using. Even with the 321 cc the 42 hp is wow!
That is a good point, if they were to use similar tech it would even out the play field for them and would be a better look at the both of them.
 

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The r3 is still a few months away so there is no choice at the moment, if you want the bike now to use.

Looking at the specs I really like it but seeing the rear seat design is the same as the r25 and r15 they look horrible in person from the rear. Just weird. Too small and high and light under the rear. Don't like the rear at all, looks ok in the pic but when you are walking around the bike have look and you will see what I am talking about..
 

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Having not made a purchase yet, I'm likely opting for the CBR300R over the R3.

I know the R3's specs on paper may be attractive but isn't the CBR300R more proven since it's based off the 250R? Honda improved everything they could and brought out the newest / updated version, no?

Don't know what to expect of the R3 since it will be all new and hasn't been tested yet.

Feel free to correct me on any points.
 
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Found this yesterday, interesting video. Ninja 300 vs ktm 390 vs cbr 300/500. No R3 but probably none available to try yet.
Thank you for sharing... LoL, didn't know our 300R could pop those wheelies... Still new to riding so won't try that anytime soon. :angel:

Nice comparison. The conservative and rookie from within had me comfortable with opting for the 300R. Others do have quite a bit more flash and performance to them, it looks.
 

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being a Yamaha rider myself, a couple of v-stars, maxim x, virago... I loved my yahamas. I can say this about the 300r. I fell in love with it on my first test ride. my girlfriend wasn't able to test ride a bike when looking for her first. she started on a gs500f. it didn't go well. the brakes were so touchy, it caused her to drop the bike three times and almost made her quite. any way.....the 300r came out, and wow, we wanted to test one. the tri-color I have is just that very bike. she trusted me to ride a bike and pick for her. she has been so happy on her black beauty. she is not even going to consider a different bike or larger bike. I loved the 300r so much. I went back a couple weeks later and bought that tri-color I test rode, sold my Yamaha and haven't looked back. I have never ridden a Honda in my life. I was pretty dead set on a ninja 650r or even maybe the cbr500r. this little 300 baby has stolen our hearts. we sat on the R3 at the AIME in Orlando. The R3 has a seat advantage. it is narrow and at the same height provides better footing. other than that. the little torquey cbr300r is placing smiles on our faces every tie we ride. I can't go a couple of days without wanting to hop on and ride it like I stole it, lol.... everyone finds something that makes them happy. the cbr300r surprised us. I honestly can't see jumping from a new bike to a new bike. way to expensive for me, lol... will I test ride an R3, maybe. I have a rule. don't test ride something you won't buy. cuz that turns a brand new bike for a dealer into something someone else abused on a test ride, lol....of course in my case I bought my test ride. and no, I was no easy when I test rode it, lol....I wanted a real test for my girlfriend. it was literally zero miles brand new, never been wet. I wound that sucker up like crazy in town, and high way. I was pulling 75-85 mph on a new wet test ride, lol....


glad we joined the forum. we enjoy reading and listening to everyone. be safe out there.


P.S. I was very disappointed in the blue/silver r3. blue/white would have been better. the silver just looked dull and dirty, and out of place. the red/white is nicer than the blue/silver. they didn't have the raven at the show, just the red/white, and blue/silver.

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Hello.

The best front sprocket for cbr 300 is the same like cbr 250 to have better acceleration? 13? the best too?

(sorry for my english)
 

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I think the KTM RC390 and Duke 390 look like fun bikes to ride, but man those suckers are UGLY! It isn't just the orange (which I hate), but it's like they were having a contest for who could design the ugliest headlight setup as well.
 

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I think the KTM RC390 and Duke 390 look like fun bikes to ride, but man those suckers are UGLY! It isn't just the orange (which I hate), but it's like they were having a contest for who could design the ugliest headlight setup as well.
Yeah I was disappointed as well with the final styling of the RC390 styling after seeing some initial prototype shots. This along with the price difference was enough to keep me on a Honda. It's not overly bad but I think they lost their way with the fairing. I quite like the look of the DUKE tho.
 
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