Honda CBR 300 Forum banner

Dislikes About Your 300

89817 Views 219 Replies 67 Participants Last post by  MoonShineBurner
Now, I normally don't feel comfortable starting negative topics, but when I think about it, this can be more positive than anything else.

I think we can agree that our 300 is a superb bike overall, especially if one can appreciate it for what it is. It has tons more to like about it than to dislike.

Just to share our views and opinions as to what we can find to nitpick about, what do you not like about your 300R/F?

Few things that I can think of:

1) When I fuel up the bike to full, it shows a max of 6 bars. The 6th bar comes & goes off / on... And then disappears very quickly after a few miles of riding... So I'm left with 5 bars most of the time. I suppose the bike doesn't fuel up to the absolute max because it's tilted on the stand while at the fuel up. Also, the decrease and increase of a bar happens frequently as I progress with riding throughout the tank's fuel range.

2) The exhaust canister is prone to attracting stains from the rubber soles on my shoes... Especially since the canister is large in size, and gets so hot and attracts to melting the rubber with even the slightest touch or rub from the sole.

3) The bike's motor takes a very long time to warm up, especially when it's below 30 - 40 degrees outside (less than comfortable, I know :p). I let the bike idle for a couple of minutes or so, and then I ride at the lowest RPM's to give the motor some more time to build heat. It takes a while... And actually, everything takes a long time to warm up when it's very cold outside. The shifting is always a bit harder and harsher... When I'm at the red light or when I'm trying to shift the bike to neutral, the bike keeps going to 1st or 2nd... Very difficult to land on neutral. I'm having all this happen only when it's very cold outside. I suppose motorcycles are more sensitive to the weather, and we can read the bike's behavior better than a car because we're more connected to the machine... And plus the bike's motor and components are more open to the weather compared to everything being enclosed and covered like it is in a car.


Just nitpicking... Some of these are just the nature of how motorcycles are, so probably no biggie. If I think of anything else, I'll be sure to post it up here. :D

* FYI, I have about 1,500 miles at the time of forming this thread.
See less See more
41 - 60 of 220 Posts
man, I love reading moto mikes post. even if I just skim them. great stuff, thanks.


I would say a dislike is the shift from neutral to first but.....I had the same issues on my yamahas. but I don't dislike this because it is not unique to Honda or the 300. i agree, keep the bike in 1st and clutch in at red lights. this way if you need to get out of the way for any reason, you can. and yes if you have a neutral to first fail. clutch in and out once or twice. or roll the bike a couple of inches. both will get it back in sync to shift. happens to me all the time.


i think my fav dislike now, accessing the oil filter, lol...just like the others, i wish i didn't have to fool with half the darn fairings for an oil filter. still, the 300 is darn good and not too much to dislike. nice job Honda.
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 1
Had mine for well over 3 months and my experience is with mostly 600cc bikes. R6, F41, and 600RR.

1) Cold weather certainly jacks with everything. I am in Cali so the mornings get super cold (around 40 or so) and it can take some time to get up to snuff with the warm engine.
2) Finding neutral is a beast... only after 3 months of extensive trying have I finally been able to get into neutral. (sadly it is only from second gear poping down)
3) This has far less torque/rev's than I am use to. I find myself looking for another gear despite being in 6th already. This isnt really a complaint as much as it is an adjustment
4) Kickstand scares me on inclines. It is short and stubby and doesnt feel like it would hold up the bike if a kid bumped it by accident. I find myself parking the bike in odd positions just to counter this.
5) The looks, I love the bike but honestly wish it had a more aggressive look. (this is me just nitpicking because i miss my R6) The ninja has this look and is partly the reason why I wanted one.
6) The stigma... I ride onto base and anybody who rides knows its a 300. I immediately get the normal BS related to it and it gets called a scooter. I am adult enough to know that this is all macho bullshit but it still gets annoying and goes with having the bike. I laugh and normally mention the MPG and watch as they shut up.
7) The Gas Cap... seriously it has no tether whatsoever? This is annoying since I have no place to put it and the key has to stay attached. I find myself trying to find a place to put it only to have to just place it in my lap. Maybe I am crazy but seriously was annoying (still is) when I got the bike and went to fill up the first time.

All in all the positives outweigh the negatives. I love the bike so far and very much enjoy how easy, light weight, and versatile it is
See less See more
I set my gas cap on the back seat. It rolled off, got jammed behind the muffler and bent my key.

I bought a gas cap protector stick-on the same day.
Whenever I'm refueling my 250R, I just set the gas cap on top of the gas pump. Never had a problem... with the key remaining in the cap, it's not like you can ride away without it.

And the reason Honda designed the gas cap so that the key can't be removed from it while it's off the tank, is because on an EFI system the fuel tank has to be closed. Just like when people don't tighten the gas cap on their cars with EFI, and then the "Check Engine" light comes on.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
Had mine for well over 3 months and my experience is with mostly 600cc bikes. R6, F41, and 600RR.

1) Cold weather certainly jacks with everything. I am in Cali so the mornings get super cold (around 40 or so) and it can take some time to get up to snuff with the warm engine.
I'll get out and ride my 250R this time of year when we have midday temps in the low to mid 40's F. I haven't found that it takes much longer to bring the engine up to operating temp... maybe a couple minutes more of slow cruising to see 3 bars on the coolant temp gauge, but that's about it. The beauty of liquid cooled engines is that they run at a consistent internal temp, regardless of the ambient air temp. Whereas air cooled engines can be a bit more finicky, particularly when it comes to very high ambient air temps, where peak power will start to drop off. And of course carbureted air cooled engines are effected by extreme low outside temps in that they can take much longer to warm up and begin to run right.

I suppose 'cold' is a matter of perspective depending on where one lives... here in northern New Mexico where I live, 40F - 45F is the typical high daytime temp this time of year, with early morning temps often in the single digits and low teens. For other, more northern states, 10F - 20F might be the best they can hope for a high daytime temp during the winter months. So yeah, 40F isn't exactly what most people think of as "super cold". In fact, virtually any gasoline powered internal combustion engine will run better, and create it's maximum power at lower ambient temps like 40F, than it will at say 80F and above. Colder intake air temps are where it's at when it comes to creating optimum power & performance.

2) Finding neutral is a beast... only after 3 months of extensive trying have I finally been able to get into neutral. (sadly it is only from second gear poping down)
From my earlier post in this thread: ... a quick 'double clutch' action on the lever will allow the gearbox to slip right into first gear. Some people will roll the bike a few inches while pushing down on the shift pedal, which also works. I find it easier to just pull the clutch lever a second time.

We've had a lot of new riders over on the CBR250.net site complain about this neutral to first gear shifting issue, thinking that there was something wrong with their particular bike, when it's actually a common idiosyncrasy for a lot of different motorcycles. My '12 CBR250R now has 15,000 miles on the odometer, and I've always had to double clutch in order to shift from neutral to first... it's just how it is.


3) This has far less torque/rev's than I am use to. I find myself looking for another gear despite being in 6th already. This isnt really a complaint as much as it is an adjustment
No intention of criticizing, but I'm just curious why you went down in power from 600cc supersport bikes to the 300R? (I know of a lot of riders who own 600 SS bikes and who have also bought CBR250R's, but it's usually in addition to their 600's, not as a replacement bike.)

4) Kickstand scares me on inclines. It is short and stubby and doesnt feel like it would hold up the bike if a kid bumped it by accident. I find myself parking the bike in odd positions just to counter this.
Interesting... most owners who have complained about the side stand on the CBR250R/300R have thought that it is too long, and puts the bike in too much of an upright position. My 250R leans over on the side stand just about right when it's on the level floor of my garage. If I'm parking it somewhere that isn't very level, I have to allow for that in the way I park it. It's just common sense really.

Somewhat humorous story: I recall someone on the CBR250R forum a couple years ago complaining that their bike fell over when they parked the bike on the lawn in their front yard. Yeah, I know, hard to believe. Unfortunately for some people (far too many people actually), motorcycles don't come from the factory supplied with "common sense', just an Owner's Manual. Of course the O/M has to be taken out of it's plastic bag and actually read by the new owner. Surprising how often that doesn't seem to happen. :rolleyes: I also remember another new CBR250R owner who said "why should I bother looking something up in the O/M, when I can come on a forum ask the question". He got pissed off when another member (not me) replied that "it's a very good idea to sit down and read through the O/M to familiarize yourself with the bike". Some people...as I recall, his original post was asking what the recommended tire pressures were.

5) The looks, I love the bike but honestly wish it had a more aggressive look. (this is me just nitpicking because i miss my R6) The ninja has this look and is partly the reason why I wanted one.
I do have to say that I find it just a bit odd that anyone would have a complaint about the cosmetic look of a motorcycle after they've bought said bike, when there are obviously other choices of bikes to buy out there. And no one ever buys a car or bike not knowing what it looks like. :confused:

So why didn't you buy the Ninja 300 if that's what you really wanted in terms of an aggressive look?... not to mention that the Ninja 300 has significantly more horsepower and top end performance than the CBR300R.

6) The stigma... I ride onto base and anybody who rides knows its a 300. I immediately get the normal BS related to it and it gets called a scooter. I am adult enough to know that this is all macho bullshit but it still gets annoying and goes with having the bike. I laugh and normally mention the MPG and watch as they shut up.
Also a common complaint on the CBR250.net forums, mainly from young male new riders. Who cares what anyone else thinks or says about the bike you choose to ride?... tell 'em to piss off. If it happens to be an officer of higher rank than you, make sure you salute first before telling them to "piss off, Sir." Don't forget the 'sir', they really get bent out of shape when you don't end your reply with 'sir'. :p



7) The Gas Cap... seriously it has no tether whatsoever? This is annoying since I have no place to put it and the key has to stay attached. I find myself trying to find a place to put it only to have to just place it in my lap. Maybe I am crazy but seriously was annoying (still is) when I got the bike and went to fill up the first time...
See my previous post regarding the gas cap. Most gas station fuel pumps i've seen have a flat surface on top of the pump to set the cap while you're pumping the gas.

As for some sort of a tether, if it did have one I could see all the complaints about how the gas cap is scratching the paint on the fuel tank.
See less See more
man, I love reading moto mikes post. even if I just skim them. great stuff, thanks.
I appreciate that... thanks kool-aide.
You know mine was hard to get into 1st from N up until a week ago. I used to anticipate the light change and roll the bike a little forward or backward as I shifted which works too. A couple of times I forgot which delayed my take off. Then suddenly for no apparent reason with about 2000 miles on the bike, it started going into 1st with no problems. That was 150 miles ago and I've gone from N to 1st probably 100 times without any issues since then, so the problem solved itself on its own.
I'll get out and ride my 250R this time of year when we have midday temps in the low to mid 40's F. I haven't found that it takes much longer to bring the engine up to operating temp... maybe a couple minutes more of slow cruising to see 3 bars on the coolant temp gauge, but that's about it. The beauty of liquid cooled engines is that they run at a consistent internal temp, regardless of the ambient air temp. Whereas air cooled engines can be a bit more finicky, particularly when it comes to very high ambient air temps, where peak power will start to drop off. And of course carbureted air cooled engines are effected by extreme low outside temps in that they can take much longer to warm up and begin to run right.

I suppose 'cold' is a matter of perspective depending on where one lives... here in northern New Mexico where I live, 40F - 45F is the typical high daytime temp this time of year, with early morning temps often in the single digits and low teens. For other, more northern states, 10F - 20F might be the best they can hope for a high daytime temp during the winter months. So yeah, 40F isn't exactly what most people think of as "super cold". In fact, virtually any gasoline powered internal combustion engine will run better, and create it's maximum power at lower ambient temps like 40F, than it will at say 80F and above. Colder intake air temps are where it's at when it comes to creating optimum power & performance.



From my earlier post in this thread: ... a quick 'double clutch' action on the lever will allow the gearbox to slip right into first gear. Some people will roll the bike a few inches while pushing down on the shift pedal, which also works. I find it easier to just pull the clutch lever a second time.

We've had a lot of new riders over on the CBR250.net site complain about this neutral to first gear shifting issue, thinking that there was something wrong with their particular bike, when it's actually a common idiosyncrasy for a lot of different motorcycles. My '12 CBR250R now has 15,000 miles on the odometer, and I've always had to double clutch in order to shift from neutral to first... it's just how it is.




No intention of criticizing, but I'm just curious why you went down in power from 600cc supersport bikes to the 300R? (I know of a lot of riders who own 600 SS bikes and who have also bought CBR250R's, but it's usually in addition to their 600's, not as a replacement bike.)



Interesting... most owners who have complained about the side stand on the CBR250R/300R have thought that it is too long, and puts the bike in too much of an upright position. My 250R leans over on the side stand just about right when it's on the level floor of my garage. If I'm parking it somewhere that isn't very level, I have to allow for that in the way I park it. It's just common sense really.

Somewhat humorous story: I recall someone on the CBR250R forum a couple years ago complaining that their bike fell over when they parked the bike on the lawn in their front yard. Yeah, I know, hard to believe. Unfortunately for some people (far too many people actually), motorcycles don't come from the factory supplied with "common sense', just an Owner's Manual. Of course the O/M has to be taken out of it's plastic bag and actually read by the new owner. Surprising how often that doesn't seem to happen. :rolleyes: I also remember another new CBR250R owner who said "why should I bother looking something up in the O/M, when I can come on a forum ask the question". He got pissed off when another member (not me) replied that "it's a very good idea to sit down and read through the O/M to familiarize yourself with the bike". Some people...as I recall, his original post was asking what the recommended tire pressures were.



I do have to say that I find it just a bit odd that anyone would have a complaint about the cosmetic look of a motorcycle after they've bought said bike, when there are obviously other choices of bikes to buy out there. And no one ever buys a car or bike not knowing what it looks like. :confused:

So why didn't you buy the Ninja 300 if that's what you really wanted in terms of an aggressive look?... not to mention that the Ninja 300 has significantly more horsepower and top end performance than the CBR300R.



Also a common complaint on the CBR250.net forums, mainly from young male new riders. Who cares what anyone else thinks or says about the bike you choose to ride?... tell 'em to piss off. If it happens to be an officer of higher rank than you, make sure you salute first before telling them to "piss off, Sir." Don't forget the 'sir', they really get bent out of shape when you don't end your reply with 'sir'. :p

See my previous post regarding the gas cap. Most gas station fuel pumps i've seen have a flat surface on top of the pump to set the cap while you're pumping the gas.

As for some sort of a tether, if it did have one I could see all the complaints about how the gas cap is scratching the paint on the fuel tank.
The quote system for this forum is horrid :p, should look into the code for "selective quotes". Anyway:

2) I have no issues getting into first. My issue is getting into neutral from first. It always skips past it. I have to gear up to second to half switch down. This was not a problem on my 600’s

3) 600’s are a hot ticket item where I live in Cali. My bike was a 2013 LE R6. I had it for a full year before I moved apartments closer to the border where it got jacked. The bike was cased and they literally stole it within a two hour window. I told myself I would not get another bike until I had a house with a garage, but necessity dictates action often. I had to get rid of the jeep for my move to my new base since they only allow the transfer of one car. In doing so, I purchased a bike since it doesn’t count as a car and can be shipped with your household goods. Instead of getting a commonly stolen bike I figured I would go with something less… serious in price. If I get ****** on 5k it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. If I didn’t have to I wouldn’t have purchased it, but again sometimes necessity outweighs the want.

4) Anybody who complains it is too long probably is not use to normal bikes. I seriously thought I got a shorty kickstand when I first got it. The thing is bulkier and mimics that of a lowered bike (which this bike pretty much is already, so I get it). I am fairly certain the dealership was tipping the bike and rotating it on the kickstand since I saw them do this to other bikes when moving their inventory outside. This is not something you normally do (Unless comfortable) so it got me thinking. When I got home and put the badboy in the driveway (which is inclined and I have no choice about) I noticed very quickly how much lean the bike would have if I didn’t park it at a 45 or greater angle with the curve. As you said, this is common sense but still feels shorter.

5) The NINJA was not available in the color I wanted. The time for them to order the bike and the time I needed to get the bike did not match up. Furthermore, the ninja is a more aggressive bike and is not as comfortable (for me anyway) on longer rides. Perhaps this is just a mind thing and the bikes really are similar, but when riding the Honda I felt relaxed and at less of a lean. I knew what the bike looked like and I knew that it was brand new for Honda. Price point was exactly where I wanted it and the bike was just fast enough to go 75+. The MPG was also on target with what I needed. This purchase was not for desire but more for necessity.

6) Well I am certainly not young and the comments are just an annoyance. I can handle it just wish it wasn’t the case. That said, I laugh when I see other riders zoom past and get pulled over. Just wish I had my 600 back! :(

7) I
live in a dodgy area. I don’t trust leaving my gas cap with the key in it on top of the front of the bike. A tether would be nice only because I would place it in the same place I do not but have no fear of it falling and then forcing me to get off the bike.
See less See more
My cb300f stands up straighter than any other motorcycle I have ever owned. If yours doesn't, that's good. I've owned a bunch of motorcycles and this is the first one that has had this issue.


It can be an issue for some people getting on and especially OFF the bike because if you are short, as you start to dismount, you push right against the bike a little. If the bike leans to the left as most do, this lean and stability helps you dismount. If the bike is too upright and light like the cb300f, the bike moves and means you have to dismount without using the lean of the bike to stabilize you.


I posed a photo of the cb300f next to my fz-07 from the back with both steering columns turned the same amount. The cb300f is more upright.
... 2) I have no issues getting into first. My issue is getting into neutral from first. It always skips past it. I have to gear up to second to half switch down. This was not a problem on my 600’s
My bad... I mis-read your original post, along with having the "Shifting into 1st gear from neutral" issue on my brain.

7) I live in a dodgy area. I don’t trust leaving my gas cap with the key in it on top of the front of the bike. A tether would be nice only because I would place it in the same place I do not but have no fear of it falling and then forcing me to get off the bike.
Not sure I understand? How or why would you "leave my gas cap with the key in it on top of the front of the bike"... at a gas station when you're refueling? I mean you're standing right there with the bike and the gas cap/key is within arms reach... is someone going to run up and try to grab your gas cap right out from under your nose?
I know people used to leave gas caps from cars at gas stations all the time so they now attach a tether to the cap. I just take off the cap and place it on top of the pump, fill up, then put the cap back on. I don't even think the key comes out of the cap until it is back on the bike, so you couldn't forget it. The only thing I don't like about this...and it's pretty nitpicky... is that on windy days there is dust in the air and if the cap had a hinge, I could unlock the cap but leave the tank covered right up until I insert the nozzle thus preventing dirt from entering the tank. I had a manual once that said try not to fill your gas tank on windy days and that idea has stuck in my brain. There may be an upside to having a gas cap that comes off. If you buy gas when it is cheap and keep it in containers and use a funnel to refill at home, a standard funnel won't sit straight in the gas tank unless the gas cap is removable which can cause you to spill gasoline when you fill from a gas can.
See less See more
My Dislikes (300F - 1k mi - First Bike)

I've read all previous comments. Here's my take on the 300F:
1. The bike does stand up straight. quite annoying since most of this small towns restaurant parking lots are built on top of hills. learned my lesson when my bike almost fell over at Taco Bell.
2. Vibration is annoying. bothersome level 2/5.
3. Mirrors are lame. going to throw some similar to the Grom :cool: .
4. Most sites don't have much after market parts listed for the 300R/F. It's annoying. Of course I can come here & ask if a part will not only fit the R but will fit the F but do I really HAVE to do so?
5. The cost of the manual is too **** HIGH! Seriously, $106? I've never paid more than $40. If I ever buy one expect me to make a PDF & give it to you guys via PM/ Email ;) .

I enjoy my bike. For those who are riding in "cold weather" mine has started fine in 16F weather. If yours doesn't give it some throttle. I did not know riding a naked bike would mean so much wind slapping you around. A bit more than I expected. I remember going down the highway going 60 for the first time getting beat to ****. I'm used to it. I would love to try a 250/300 R though. Anyone in S. New Mexico wanna trade for a day let me know. ;)
See less See more
  • Like
Reactions: 1
... The cost of the manual is too **** HIGH! Seriously, $106? I've never paid more than $40...
I have to agree... the Service Manual for the CBR250R from Helm Inc. is $65, and there certainly are not enough technical differences between these bikes to justify charging an extra $41 for the CBR300R/CB300F manual. One would assume that they only had to take the existing 250R manual, and then edit a couple dozen pages in order to come up with the manual for the 300R/F. If anything you would think that the CBR250R S/M should have had the higher retail price, as they had nothing previously written to base it on.
  • Like
Reactions: 2
My bad... I mis-read your original post, along with having the "Shifting into 1st gear from neutral" issue on my brain.

Not sure I understand? How or why would you "leave my gas cap with the key in it on top of the front of the bike"... at a gas station when you're refueling? I mean you're standing right there with the bike and the gas cap/key is within arms reach... is someone going to run up and try to grab your gas cap right out from under your nose?
It is possible. Perhaps it is my military training to cover all bases that jacks with my mind. A person could grab the gas cap, reducing my state of mind and worrying about that, a second person could come over and push me off of the bike and now they have it. Overthinking it? Maybe... You could argue I would be just as ****** if it was tethered and they did the same thing. Sadly, it is a feeling of unease that I have about it and I cant really change that. No need to defend the design (as you stated later on in the posts) as it clearly has a purpose. This is just something I did not personally like about the bike.
do all Hondas put the horn in the wrong place? all the yamahas I rode, and even the Harley, have the horn below the signal, not above. drove me nuts the first few weeks. I kept honking at everyone when I was trying to cancel my turn, lol....
  • Like
Reactions: 2
do all Hondas put the horn in the wrong place? all the yamahas I rode, and even the Harley, have the horn below the signal, not above. drove me nuts the first few weeks. I kept honking at everyone when I was trying to cancel my turn, lol....
Would you believe they changed it on the 300, it was the other (more common) way round on the 250R. Hard to guess why they'd change it.
Took me ages to get used to it and i still get it mixed up occasionally. People must think I'm real friendly honking all the time or a road rager!
  • Like
Reactions: 1
Just did my 2nd oil change. That design of not being able to remove the lower right hand belly cowl without removing the top one first is a right pain in the arse. I've worked out if you just take out the lower three screws of the top one tho you can get enough flex out of it to sneak your allen key in and remove the last (front) screw on the belly cowl.

Back of the class for whom ever designed that set up. :mad:
  • Like
Reactions: 1
mirrors too narrow
speedometer reads 10 Km high at 100 Km
have windshield but air coming from around the triple clamp is really a lot as already mentioned
mirrors too narrow
speedometer reads 10 Km high at 100 Km
have windshield but air coming from around the triple clamp is really a lot as already mentioned
Interesting that the models with speedo in Km/ph read 10% high whereas the ones in MPH seem pretty accrurate from all accounts.
Yeah the windshield is a little on the light side protection wise but it looks sporty!
41 - 60 of 220 Posts
Top