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Just return from a long time in the seat in total 8 hours with a passenger on very trying conditions. From Friday peak traffic in Bangkok to dirt roads with monsoon rain to then 100klm hour highway driving and repeat the conditions 3 or so times and add 30+ degree heat. Crazy day and I am very sore.

The bike performed well it got very hot, actually it's the first time I have heard the radiator fans going flat out. But it made it with no issues just is in terrible need of a wash.

How did the cbr300r compare to my recently totalled ninja 300?

I have done the same trip on my ninja and it's a very different bike to do a trip like this on. We didn't make it back the same day when we took the ninja mainly because my wife could not take it. For a passenger the ninja is not a nice bike. They are hanging on for fear of death. The rear seat on the cbr is better and passenger position is better. Also there are hand rails. She even commented I am glad we didnt take your old ninja.

For me I am very sore but I was just as sore on the ninja from that amount of time in the seat. We stopped for a rest at the same distance/time. So really for me one is not easier on the body then the other. It's just the passenger that notices the difference.

Going through the traffic is just easier on the cbr it just feels easier to manage when lane splitting also you have better vision on the cbr due to the seating position.

Now for the negative, on the highway the bikes are different. It's the engine and gearbox combo. The cbr is a low down torque machine where the ninja loves to rev. Due to this I change gears very early on the cbr no need to rev it and on a few occasions I was looking for another gear ( oh I am in 6th already ). To be fair the bike was only revving at 6 or so grand but I never need to rev this bike so felt out of character. On the ninja I never found myself looking an extra gear you just revved the thing. So if you do a fair bit of cruising at 100ks I would be getting the bigger front sprocket. Cheap and easy.

Fuel consumption was a bit cheaper on the honda compared to the ninja. I think it's due to the gearing and need to rev but the ninja used more fuel doing this same trip. But ithe ninja has a bigger tank. Also in Thailand we have 10 or 20 % ethanol fuel if you want to use it. I never usually use it but the manual says it can be used. In some of the remote areas it's all you can find. I put in some 95 octane 20% and was surprised. Fuel was very cheap. Also bike performed just the same and got the same fuel consumption doing this type of riding. Not bad.

Off to sleep and rest the body... My butt feels like it's gone 12 rounds with a Muay Thai champion turn Lady Boy. ;):devil:
 

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Good observations

Very good feedback on the performance on a long trip. I haven't really taken it out on a very long trip, intact haven't been getting a lot of riding days now as the weather is changing here. So with this observation that the CBR300 doesn't really rev very high, what is your ideal gear change rpm both for efficient gear changing , speed and better for the engine?
 

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hello bkkthumper- I live in Thailand also, I will be back in 2 weeks now(had to work all summer). I live in udon, and I will get my cbr300 the day or two after I get there. my question is, did you get your bike from a regular show room, or from big wing? last year I bought my cbr250 from a small showroom in khon kaen, and our big wing in udon has 500's and up. so im not sure whos got the 300's. im going to stay a day in Bangkok and look at the bikes there, then I will know the prices better when I get up to Isaan. thanks
 

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Glad to have some folks from Thailand on here, along with one from Udon, never knew that was a place but I do see it often on soup menu's, Udon Noodle Soup :D
 

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tonybell000 - you can get them at all Honda Dealers.. they will just need to order them.

I checked around and all could get them.

Got mine from a M-Drive dealer but even the little dealers could get them in a day.

Red ABS Version for 133,000 baht.

Zaki Abbas - I change gear when driving around the city at between 5-6000 rpm. If I am just doing regular driving around the city no need to go above. If in a hurry or avoiding something then higher. Bike has good pull from very low.
 

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Hey Thumper,

I am a current Ninja300 owner and looking to switch to the CBR300r (or 500r) because I'm finding I don't particularly enjoy the Ninja300 for long freeway rides (70+ mph) - which unfortunately is the most type of riding i do as a commuter.

I'm extremely interested in hearing your comparison of vibrations and any numbness experienced between the cbr300r and ninja300 on this long trip you have ridden both bikes on.

When I tested the cbr300r, i felt a lot of vibration in the body / seat (not so much in the handlebars) and didn't know if that was common or just a bad tester (perhaps the seat was not attached correctly). On my Ninja300, i definitely get hand numbness because at freeway speeds here and for long freeway rides, the much higher revving eventually kicks into your hands and numb them.

Thanks for posting your comparison.. it's very much needed (as there aren't nearly as many out there as i would have thought there would be by now for these 2 bikes).
 

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Better late then never..

Hey Thumper,

I am a current Ninja300 owner and looking to switch to the CBR300r (or 500r) because I'm finding I don't particularly enjoy the Ninja300 for long freeway rides (70+ mph) - which unfortunately is the most type of riding i do as a commuter.

I'm extremely interested in hearing your comparison of vibrations and any numbness experienced between the cbr300r and ninja300 on this long trip you have ridden both bikes on.

When I tested the cbr300r, i felt a lot of vibration in the body / seat (not so much in the handlebars) and didn't know if that was common or just a bad tester (perhaps the seat was not attached correctly). On my Ninja300, i definitely get hand numbness because at freeway speeds here and for long freeway rides, the much higher revving eventually kicks into your hands and numb them.

Thanks for posting your comparison.. it's very much needed (as there aren't nearly as many out there as i would have thought there would be by now for these 2 bikes).


Hey Richirp

Sorry didn't see your reply.. I guess better late then never.

On long trips on both bikes I didn't really get much numbness but I make a point to loosen my grip.. In the city when I am doing lane splitting and navigating traffic if it's a big day I get numbness in the hands on both bikes.. Because I am wrestling the bike.

The CBR can feel vibee between the legs if you grip the side with your knees... Only time I have noticed it and it's over 6000 rpm.

Hope you have sorted out your decision by now...
 
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