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It looks great but the concept images always do. Often the final product is a lot more watered down the concept. I noticed this when I was following the birth of the R3 and the KTM RC390.

Yes, I would be interested in buying something like this but I'd be a little reluctant to go back to a 250cc engine size.
 

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I'm going to wait. I think the current 300's look better. And it would be interesting to see what price they would be put these bikes out for. If the price is nearing the 500r price i would be thing more towards buying the CBR500r
 

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I understand what you are saying Wings and many perhaps feel the same way. But for me the 500 R is a nice bike but its weight kind of turns me off. (Same when I look in the mirror) For me the appeal is a light weight sport (ish) bike that is easily moved around and easily flick-able...that is a really good handling machine.

So even if the new 250 RR was priced close to the 500R I would rather buy the 250 RR...but for outside of Asia.......Honda please make it a least a 300 RR or even better a 350 RR. :)
 

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Myself I really like the look of the current model.
....I think it looks better than the R 3.
 

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I would be interested, if this concept is a 4 cylinder machine like the old CBR250RR. Now that bike was quick.
Me too. I guess I would prefer 300 ccs too or maybe a little more since I wouldn't really want a bike that was set up for competitive racing mostly. Something along the lines of the Ninja 300 or CBR300r but with 4 cylinders would work for me. A lot of these bikes start out as looking like race bikes, but then the reality of the market kicks in and they decide to make the bikes appeal to a broader group that includes street riders. 4 cylinders would be key. Aprilia riders have been begging Aprilia to come out with a 4-cylinder small race bike for a long time to no avail.
 

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The 300cc market is well established in Thailand so can't see them bringing in a 250.If it was an inline four the price would be doubled but the 300 would have more power.You would only be paying for the sound.
Just put some clip ons and rearsets on the 300 and you have an RR.
 

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......If it was an inline four the price would be doubled but the 300 would have more power......
Probably not. The 300 is in a low state of tune and so a 250/4 could easily be designed to make more power. Power is largely a function of rpm, and a high-spec four could comfortably rev to 15,000rpm or more.

Torque might be an issue though.
 

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While it's likely that Honda is working on a new engine to compete with the other 300+cc twin cylinder motors in the small sport bike segment, I really doubt it will be a an inline four cylinder motor. Why? The cost to manufacture an all new inline four cylinder motor would put the retail price of such a bike way outside the established price range for this market segment. Would anyone really be willing to pay close to $10,000 USD for such a bike, when for a couple thousand more you'd be able to ride away on a CBR600RR?

I'm pretty confident that any new 300+cc sport bike from Honda will be a an inline twin, with a carbon steel frame and non-adjustable suspension, as well as an MSRP in line with the Kawasaki Ninja 300 and the Yamaha R3.

If what you desire in a sport bike is all the trick stuff like an aluminum frame, fully adjustable inverted front forks and rear shock, big dual disc brakes up front, and an inline four cylinder power plant, you are in luck... Honda dealers have CBR600RR's ready to go. Take a cue from Fanatic: buy one and never look back.
 

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Probably not. The 300 is in a low state of tune and so a 250/4 could easily be designed to make more power. Power is largely a function of rpm, and a high-spec four could comfortably rev to 15,000rpm or more.

Torque might be an issue though.
As I recall the MC19/21 CBR250RR's back in the 1980's put out something in the area of 50+ HP, so certainly a 250 inline four built today would be at least that (and likely a little more power). Still, I think the market for such a bike would be very limited, largely due to the high retail price. It might sell in Asian countries, but I don't see it as a global market bike.
 

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As MotoMike points out, the problem with making a real sportsbike under 600cc is that it would cost pretty much the same to manufacture as the larger bike, and that's before you start to think about the development costs.

The only way such a thing might work would be if it was way lighter than the 600, lighter even than the 300. That would be an attractive proposition in my mind, and a bloody good trackday bike for those who enjoy honing technique and carving the tighter sections. Good riders would probably humiliate big-bore bike riders in the twisty sections, which is always a good thing. As such, it would probably be bought as a toy, for track use only.

The demand would be small, too small for Honda anyway, so a non-starter.

A daft idea. Isn't going to happen.

I want one.
 

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As far as the looks thing is concerned, I hope it does get tamed back. Anything cutting edge cool today looks ridiculously dated in 10 years time.
 

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I also think, if a 250 'supersport' really was built, it would most likely be a twin, because this permits a narrower bike overall, more in line with the concept of a small, lightweight and nimble machine.

Or perhaps a 250cc Vee-Four? :D
 

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Honda and all other Japanese manufacturers are so conservative on their releases, it's silly while making it a challenge to believe until it's actually "official" from their own mouth.

As mentioned before, I still say it's wise to opt for the gold that is existing within models which are already current and shining in front of us.
 

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Me too. I guess I would prefer 300 ccs too or maybe a little more since I wouldn't really want a bike that was set up for competitive racing mostly. Something along the lines of the Ninja 300 or CBR300r but with 4 cylinders would work for me. A lot of these bikes start out as looking like race bikes, but then the reality of the market kicks in and they decide to make the bikes appeal to a broader group that includes street riders. 4 cylinders would be key. Aprilia riders have been begging Aprilia to come out with a 4-cylinder small race bike for a long time to no avail.
I tried an early 90's CBR250RR a long time ago. It was a blast, plus the sound of that 4 cylinder revving up to 19k was intoxicating. Those were the good old days.
 

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oddly enough I think there would actually be a market for another 250 inline 4. Although the price would increase there will always be someone willing to pay more for the most hp in a small lams approved bike. despite older and wiser now even I would be tempted to pay a little extra just for that high rpm howl. (not that I could afford it).
 
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