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CB300F Side Stand Safety Switch?

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I was sure there was a switch on the sidestand on the bike that stops the engine when you put the stand down....or am I wrong? But, I'm a bit confused, as I can see this part is present in online shops..and, Im definitly sure it was working the other day.... I've been looking under the bike a bit, but must admit I can not see any wire/switch :) Maybe I need stronger glasses...or what?
I asked the dealer today, as it would not stop the engine, but was told this was not on the 300, only from 500cc and up...
I can see that the Thai manual is different from an english manual I downloaded (for Australia) from the net. The bike is only 2-3 months old..
 
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I was sure there was a switch on the sidestand on the bike that stops the engine when you put the stand down....or am I wrong? But, I'm a bit confused, as I can see this part is present in online shops..and, Im definitly sure it was working the other day.... I've been looking under the bike a bit, but must admit I can not see any wire/switch :) Maybe I need stronger glasses...or what?
I asked the dealer today, as it would not stop the engine, but was told this was not on the 300, only from 500cc and up...
I can see that the Thai manual is different from an english manual I downloaded (for Australia) from the net. The bike is only 2-3 months old..
You are correct, there is a side stand switch on the CB300F. Here's a parts diagram showing the location of the switch: 2016 Honda CB300F AC STAND | CyclePartsNation

So if I'm understanding correctly, you believe the switch on your bike is not functioning properly?

The way it is designed to work, is that if the side stand is lowered to the down position, the switch will stop the engine if the transmission is in gear. When the transmission is in neutral, the side stand safety switch is overridden by the neutral safety switch, thus allowing the engine to run while the side stand is in the down position.

Also, the side stand safety switch, the neutral safety switch, and the clutch safety switch work together to override the starter circuit when the transmission is in gear. If the transmission is in gear and the side stand is down the engine cannot be started. If the transmission is in gear and the side stand is up, and the clutch lever is not pulled in, the engine cannot start.
 
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Yes,the switch don't seem to work...the girl at the dealer even started it in gear with the stand down,it fell over,but fortunately just a tiny scratch on the black motor guard...... Could have been worse.... Seems this model is made in Thailand, but my VIN has an H in the middle ofbthe number, so the country code don't fit.(as far as I know)
I have been looking under the bike, but I guess the switch is hidden behind the stand....
 
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Yes,the switch don't seem to work...the girl at the dealer even started it in gear with the stand down,it fell over,but fortunately just a tiny scratch on the black motor guard...... Could have been worse.... Seems this model is made in Thailand, but my VIN has an H in the middle ofbthe number, so the country code don't fit.(as far as I know)
I have been looking under the bike, but I guess the switch is hidden behind the stand....
Well it definitely sounds like you've got a defective side stand switch... which is covered by Honda's warranty.

All of the CB300F's (as well as CBR300R's) are produced in Thailand. Whereas the country code in the VIN identifies the destination country for the bike... in other words, the country that the bike was built for* and exported to.


* Even though these bikes are considered 'global' products, there are a few differences between models exported to different countries. For example, U.S. models do not have the passing switch for the headlight like the EU models do.
 
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I just went back to your intro post to see if you bought the bike new or second hand as a lot of folk (i'm guilty too in the past) disconnect them as they find them annoying.
You say the bike was 2 months old when you got it so maybe first owner did that mod?
 
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I'm the first owner, the bike was only in the store for 2 months. And, I am sure the switch worked the first days, got it last Monday. But, when the shop said this bike did not come with this function, I startet doubting myself!
Would be helpful if somebody could post a photo of the location of the connector/wiring.
 
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The connector to the main wiring harness should be located behind the left side panel. The switch can be tested with an ohm meter, but since it's already been established that the switch is faulty, I would recommend taking the bike back to the dealership and have them confirm that it's faulty and replace it under warranty. It's a new bike, and as such you shouldn't have to mess around diagnosing a faulty safety switch... that's the dealers responsibility.
 
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Agreed, it should be the dealers problem, but there are language problems...they don't speak to much English, mostly Thai.
The photo below is my sidestand, and it don't look as there is a switch there... maybe some on the forum can tell.
I will feel quite stupid insisting that there should be a switch...and, the Thai manual differs a bit, so..
I mentioned that the sales person managed to tip the bike over, and I got some small scratches on the black motor guard. Not a very big deal, but would be glad for some tip regarding what kind of paint I shold use to cover it up with, or should I leave it to some local guy? This is Thailand, I paid THB 150,,- to get a scooter tyre repaired a couple of weeks ago..(aprx. USD 5,-).
 

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Agreed, it should be the dealers problem, but there are language problems...they don't speak to much English, mostly Thai.
The photo below is my sidestand, and it don't look as there is a switch there... maybe some on the forum can tell.
I will feel quite stupid insisting that there should be a switch...and, the Thai manual differs a bit, so..
I mentioned that the sales person managed to tip the bike over, and I got some small scratches on the black motor guard. Not a very big deal, but would be glad for some tip regarding what kind of paint I shold use to cover it up with, or should I leave it to some local guy? This is Thailand, I paid THB 150,,- to get a scooter tyre repaired a couple of weeks ago..(aprx. USD 5,-).
Yeah, the pic clearly shows that there is no side stand safety switch on your bike. That's surprising. Apparently the bikes made for Thailand don't have to meet the same level of safety standards as bikes which are exported to other countries do... I wonder if thats also true for the other Asian markets.
 
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Thanks for clearing this up! I rented a scooter also, so I appearently must have mixed this up, as it's been 40 years + since I rode a manual bike.... :)
Must say I'm very pleased with the purchase. The R3 did not "feel" right for me, the first impression sitting on the Honda made me go for it.. Guess I would want a CBR or one notch bigger in a year or so.. :)
But, for now, it is the right bike, and beeing 62, I have no problems handling the weight. My wife feels comfortable with both the bike and my driving, big bonus!
Now I just have to find a shop with bigger sizes pants with pads around Phuket. Not so easy! Could not even find XL gloves in the shops we've been to...